Dear Ishwar Puri Ji,
I am seeing while I meditate the illusions of my life, attachments to thoughts and certain feelings, drop away in the presence of some inner truth. As travels the uselessness of these pursuits, my thinking, in a sense, begins to fade, or have less power, images begin to appear, and I reach a point where I feel my whole inner experience is shifting. When I say shifting, I mean, it seems to be the point where the conscious could, or can, shift into the unconscious.
I mentioned this point before. It is a frightening place, almost like dying must feel. A letting go seems to be the next step.. Is this letting go, at this point, safe? This is unexplored territory (consciously), and I guess I am afraid this state of consciousness could have its way with me. "Engulfed", is the word that comes to mind. I studied a bit of Psychology, and part of being born and so vulnerable as an infant, if one's parents are not living from the truth, the child is drawn into (part of God's design possibly), "engulfed" into their expectations(neurosis, illusions), which amounts this loss of self for the child (potential true self-divine possibility), a dying in a sense. Is it safe to let go and trust in this inner experience during meditation, or do I need a guide at its point? What should I do when I let go, if this is the next logical step? I am willing to die to be reborn to the truth, in its fullest expression. Will I be lost in this inner truth without a guide, or will I be found?
I will trust in your reply.
Much love and trust,
From now on you need a guide to help you understand all the different experiences you could expect in meditation and avoid certain pitfalls which often lead to unpleasant experiences. It is true that when the attention is concentrated behind the eyes at the third eye center it appears like you are losing sensations of your limbs and then your torso and eventually of your whole body. It is indeed an experience of dying while living and unless properly guided into a gradual experience of that state could be scary and alarming.
If done very gradually advancing a little each day it becomes natural and not scary at all.
With love and regards,
Thanks for your reply and your regards for me and my family. I am overwhelmed by
Yesterday I listened to one of your recent discourse that you delivered in London (Higher Realms of Consciousness) on you tube. At the end of your talk you always through the floor open for any questions, answers or comments. I was not there in person but want to write something. I am amazed by the ease by which you explain the spiritual aspects that every point is clear. I am stunned by knowing that fact that it is our mind which has created the world outside us. And the world we see is the projection of the projector strategically placed inside us.
The world performs all their experiments on the projection to prove that they are real, not realizing that you need an observer to conduct those experiments. If there was no observer that objects wouldn't even exist. So instead on doing our research on the object/projection, if the research is done on the observer i.e. on ourselves we would reach the source and find absolute truth. All your word's make absolute sense. Does it also mean that I am the only person who exists in the entire creation? As the world outside is the projection of my mind and nothing is real. This seems to be the reason why I always feel so lonely and alone as the only one who was mine was the creator and losing awareness of him we have found ourselves all alone.
I always love to listen when you explain about the point behind the eye center. But somehow even after listening to so many of your talks on the internet, I thought that after imagining that this body is the house in which we live, we have to look to find or go that point. But after listening to this discourse of yours I realized that we do not have to look for the point as we are the point. And we cannot look at ourselves. You absolutely made my day by beautifully explaining this small concept, which seemed so big.
What a delight to receive your sweet letter.
I am glad you have understood the basic principle of Spiritual teachings that the entire Reality is within us and it's a projection through illusion that is creating this Universe. There is only One Self but that does mean you are the only person. Your physical self, the body is not the Self but itself a part of that projection! Hence you are one person amongst many persons but all persons are sharing the same Self! A little complicated isn't it?
Love and regards to you and your family and hearty Radha Soami.
I.m a little uncertain, and a bit scared, when I feel in meditation that my arms and legs are "withdrawn" from this world. It hurts a bit and I want to move them to feel that they are still there. How should i handle this in best way? Is it simple patience, or to focus/think in a certain way?
I seem to loose concentration when it happens, especially when it comes to the chest/torso.
With love and devotion
Proceed gradually and slowly so you get used to these sensations and then they will not hurt and not make you scared. If the withdrawal of attention is too quick it can cause a scare because one feels one is dying. But with gradual practice it becomes normal.
Love and regards,
Dear Ishwar Puri Ji,
How does one process the hurts and pains that can often haunt one, and make, what one would think is the most precious fruit of the path, love(spiritual love), so difficult? I feel a sense, and know there is a tremendous well of love within me. But the hurts of the past as it is too often expressed in the moment in present relationships, make love so seemingly difficult.
My heart was broken a number of times when I was very young, and I have broken hearts myself in this life. I know all this makes me who I am, but the pain of who I am sometimes is a bit overwhelming. My attention might drop to matters of the heart. Is it OK to let my heart cry? I am 57 years old and was brought up with the thinking that men should be strong. This amounts to a total denial of what some would call the feminine side of one's nature. How can I make peace between the masculine and feminine parts of myself within? I apologize if this is a bit of a mouthful to answer. Most
sincerely, with love,
You are right. Your soul is full of overwhelming love! It is the mind that is the troublemaker! When we refuse to follow the mind the experience of love for all becomes imminent! All the old hurts and pains are seen as creations of as well as the suffering of the mind.
Then our attitude towards people, places and things changes. Do not despair. Watch the mind as an accessory to the soul and not as an advisor or master.
Use meditation to learn how to watch the mind as something separate from the Self!
With love and regards,
My Question Is If There Is Any Difference In Affect Of Satsang On A Person. Attending to One Given By A True Guru Vs Listening To Online Or Cds Etc. Vs Attending Satsang In Sangat Given By Another Satsangi Brother Or Sister?
Satsang by a Perfect Guru in person has the highest Spiritual impact on a Seeker or disciple, the DVDs and CDs of Perfect Living Masters come next and listening to a Satsangi brother or sister would come last. But all are useful in developing love and devotion for the Master which of course is essential for progress on the Spiritual Path.
I'd like to ask a question if you don't mind. Does pranajam or breath-work can take one to upper/above chakras instead of lower ones? Can it be helpful and not misdirecting in TRUE spiritual path?
Since Pranayam and Breath-work both rely on physical breathing the attention moves to the Six Chakras below which creates experiences of various variations of our Inherent Energies but not experiences of higher Consciousness! They are however useful in training the attention to concentrate within and get less distracted by things and people outside.
Can I first say that your talks/satsangs are very inspirational.Could I please ask you a question regarding the perfect living master? What does it mean if the master places his hand on the disciples head?
A Perfect Living Master whose Consciousness extends to all the nine Universes, namely the Physical World, the Astral World, the Causal World, the World beyond the Three Worlds of the Mind, in Parbrahm, the World of the Whirling Cave or Bhanwar Gupha, the World of Truth which is our Real Home Sach Khand, and three Worlds beyond Sach Khand accessible only to the Totality of Consciousness or Sat Purush, when He places His hand on the head of His disciple He bestows tremendous Grace which destroys many pending Karmas of the disciple and makes the Journey to our True Home, Sach Khand much easier.
Same is true if a Perfect Living Master gives a hug to the disciple. Both these Acts of Grace have been mentioned in the Song of the fifth Guru of the lineage of Ten Sikh Gurus, Guru Arjan Dev Ji in the Holy Guru Granth Sahib.
Hi Ishwar how does one go from totality of consciousness to Anami lok? Do you take us there? Do you experience all the states even Anami lok in totality or do you have to experience each spiritual state? Is Anami Lok just a blank state? Is it a desirable state?
Thank you Ishwar
No individuated soul goes to Anami Desh. It first merges into Totality in Sach Khand and then the Totality goes into the state of Anami Desh.
Can anything be said of Anami Desh?
Not really! If it could it would not be called Anami, the Nameless One!
Ishwar do you always choose the state of experience from Sach Khand to Anami or does it flow on its own? Is everything from Sach Khand up to Anami eternal?
The Totality of Consciousness chooses its course! Sach Khand and above are all eternal.
Love and regards,